|New PTR/Beta patch..||February-12-2014 1:51 PM PST (8 years ago)|
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And also, cross fingers :)
|New PTR/Beta patch..||February-13-2014 1:36 AM PST (8 years ago)|
i doubt any one from EU will get invite..
Don't be so sure ;-)
we are forgoten here,not even a topic from blue about that ..
EU is not forgotten! This latest PTR/beta patch was kind of an "emergency patch" that had to be brought live faster than usual, and as such (mostly due to time zone differences) it was not possible to get the patch notes translated into the 6 other languages we support in Europe before it was brought live. Once the 6 translations are complete, the news of the patch will be posted in all 7 EU Diablo sites/forums as well.
|New PTR/Beta patch..||February-13-2014 2:11 AM PST (8 years ago)|
Maybe this time some of us european get more invites :)
Beta keys were distributed to European players during the last beta waves as well, but it is true that a lot of the people who really wanted beta access weren't among the lucky ones who did get a key.
|New PTR/Beta patch..||February-13-2014 2:38 AM PST (8 years ago)|
any word to confirm that they keys have been sent out ?
I am not 100% sure, but I believe the next wave has yet to happen. I did not see an eta on this, so all I can say right now is to keep an eye on your inbox.
|New PTR/Beta patch..||February-13-2014 5:16 AM PST (8 years ago)|
Playing Blizzard games for the last 9 years, not once have i or anyone on my friends list (excluding MVPs) received any beta invite to any of your games.
That does sound like a case of bad luck indeed, and you do have my sympathies, but I feel it important to say here that just because you and your friends have been unfortunate not to get a beta invitation so far, that doesn't mean that European players aren't getting invited into our beta tests. I of course don't know the exact number of friends of yours that you are referring to here, but I am fairly sure that number pales in comparison to the number of people who have opted in for the beta... chances unfortunately are that you and many other players might never be one of the lucky ones getting a beta invitation after having opted in. This goes for players in all regions just so you know.
Usually right from the point when we announce a new game or a new expansion, we get flooded with beta key requests right from the start, and when we announce the option to opt-in for beta testing, the interest grows even further and the number of opt-in numbers tend to surge even higher after that. Basically what I am trying to say is that whenever we send out beta invites across the different regions (even when we send them out in huge numbers), the number of beta opt-ins are always ever increasing and far greater than the number of beta testers we can accommodate.
So i'll keep my doubts about how you guys send invites here in the EU, similar to how ignored the EU forums are compared to US for every game.
You are of course welcome to keep your doubts about how we distribute beta invitations, but I would like to clarify that the EU forums are far from ignored. I would like to remind you that we actually have 7 battle.net forums in 7 different languages in Europe, and each of those 7 EU forums have dedicated people reading them and gathering feedback every single day.
|New PTR/Beta patch..||February-13-2014 5:58 AM PST (8 years ago)|
Vaneras, how come players with almost no time invested into the game gets a key, while those that has invested much get nothing? Is there an easy explanation to it, is the invites totally random from the opt-in db?
Yup it is pretty much random, and it therefore happens in some cases that less active people might get an invitation. Plenty of very active players are in the beta though, so it is not like only less active casual playrs have access.
how is this fair? And what kind of feedback do you expect from a player who barely played D3V?
How is it fair? Well that depends on how you look at it.
Diablo III (and all of our other games really) are made for a large audience of players, and not only super active and hardcore gamers. A player who have barely played the original game at all can offer truly valuable feedback on the newcomer experience and such a player can give us a great insight in how the gameplay feels like for the casual gamer. When you are intimately familiar with a game as hardcore players and developers often are, it can sometimes be easy to overlook the newcomer and casual experience, so getting feedback from less experienced players in the beta is quite valuable indeed.
|New PTR/Beta patch..||February-14-2014 1:29 AM PST (8 years ago)|
Why not give Beta access to everyone at this point
It is mostly a capacity issue preventing this, but the signal to noise ratio matters as well—feedback gathering is usually best when you hit a "sweet spot" balance between the number of testers and the diversity of testers.
Let players try new features and decide if they want the expansion or not.
But that is not really the primary purpose of a beta though. To me it kind of sounds like that what you are really asking for is a demo? Or am I wrong?
As in general to have separate Beta and PTR is strange.
I can see why you would think that if the expansion content is the only thing that really matters to you. But the separation is necessary because the revamped systems need to be tested and work well both in the "vanilla" environment as well as the expansion environment.
One more reason to allow more(not just +3000 invites) people into Beta, will allow to stress test servers before Expansion launch.
There are other ways to perform stress tests than merely "opening the flood gates" and making the beta available to everyone who wants it. In fact, we have been doing a lot of stress testing on the PTR and beta already.
|New PTR/Beta patch..||February-14-2014 4:54 AM PST (8 years ago)|
So if you are still sending out invites means you haven't hit that "sweet spot", or not?
We are in a fairly good spot now as far as I'm aware, but since the "sweet spot" is not something you can easily define or quantify with a specific number, people are invited in waves as long as we feel that we are still getting a good "signal to noise ratio".
I believe the primary purpose for beta is to find maximum amount of bugs at his stage before final product is presented to masses. If this is the same for you, then i don't understand why invites are send randomly.
The purpose of the beta is more than just finding bugs, it is just as much about tuning and polishing the gameplay so that it feels good to play for as large a part of our audience as possible. Since our audience is so diverse, the random invitations ensures that we get more different types of gamers into the beta, and not just the most active and hardcore gamers. I mentioned this in my previous post as well.
|New PTR/Beta patch..||February-14-2014 5:30 AM PST (8 years ago)|
Random doesn't help your most loyal fans feel appreciated when you distribute the coveted beta keys in this way Van.
I say this knowing you to be a man of principles and character and NOT autonomous (or possibly even influential) in the granting of beta keys - but you might pass on the sentiment to those that do have discretion in the selection process.
Yep I do understand that, I really do, so trust me when I say that it is not at all our intention to make you guys feel unappreciated or dismissed.
I am aware that our beta invitations are coveted by many, and I honestly think that is both a curse and a blessing. It is a blessing because we see that there are so many people out there who are passionate about our games and who are willing to spend their time helping us testing our games, but it is curse because people tend to think of beta invitations as a tokens, which sucks when it is not possible to give one to everyone who wants one.