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So Its "OFFICIAL" The ps3/ps4 gets the better version(1)Category: ConsoleJune-11-2013 11:23 AM PDT (8 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
@Diablo just tweeted it out

@Diablo What patch will the game go live with?
@Blaine8723 The console version will ship with up to patch 1.0.7 content.

@diablo will you release future patches for it like you do for pc?
@Blaine8723 Most likely! We're working with Sony & Microsoft to ensure that we're able to deliver updates to the console version.

@diablo one last question, will the drop rates be different on console than on pc, because of no auction house?
@Blaine8723 Slightly! It takes a "less drops, better quality" approach -- like what we want to do with PC. <---------------------- HOW DOES A CONSOLE GET THIS FIRST????????

They are launching the game with "Less, Drops, Better Quality" and giving them Patch 1.07. The patch everyone was happy with except for the loot.

Loots like the console version is getting the BETTER LOOT in patch 1.07 when our PATCH 1.08 STILL Didnt get this feature!!!

I bet they removed those random rolls as well so DEX doesnt end up on a WIZARD WAND ect...

BLIZZARD IS A TOTAL FAILURE!!!!! SMH!!!

I dont follow twitter, but i found the recent Tweets curtesy of "BlaineTrain" and his post at
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9280998219

EDIT:

Check this out (Diablo 3 is at 1 hour and 45 mins (1:45:00)

http://www.gametrailers.com/netstorage/e3/live.html

Checkout (1:46:40) For when he say's that "Diablo 3 has EPIC LOOT!!"
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Lylirra
So Its "OFFICIAL" The ps3/ps4 gets the better version(44)June-11-2013 3:41 PM PDT (8 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Fixing itemization (which needs to be done on PC) is one thing. Applying console-based itemization to the pc version is quite another.


Interesting quote! (Also, apologies in advance for the TL;DR response.)

While the core of the console game is based on the PC game -- you get all the same content, systems, classes, skills, and runes on the console as you do on PC -- the console version of Diablo III is really its own thing. It's a familiar, but ultimately unique experience. Our goal when developing Diablo III for console was to deliver that same visceral gameplay you get with a mouse and keyboard, but at the same time feel completely natural when using a controller. (Basically, whichever platform you prefer for gaming, you can pick that version and know that it was tweaked to be best suited for the platform of your choice.)

In order to achieve that, we've made a variety of tweaks to the the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions, including a complete re-design of the UI and character controls, inventory management, as well as combat pacing and boss fights. The item game is predominantly the same, but we've also made some minor adjustments to itemization. Items will drop less frequently, but will typically be of higher quality. There's a chance that when a white or gray item drops, that it will be automatically converted to gold too. These changes were made to help manage the flow of gameplay and keep players in the midst of combat (and out of their inventory screens) as much possible. Inventory management is a little more difficult on the console version than it is on the PC, where you have a mouse to quickly navigate through menus, so this was a pretty key tweak for the PS3 and Xbox 360.

Many of these adjustments inspired future changes we'd like to make to PC, and many of them were inspired by plans we already had for improving itemization as a whole. Since we use staggered development (meaning, the PC and console games more or less have separate teams and development cycles), though, it's possible that one game will receive changes before another. Over time, which game that is may switch back and forth. Even so, PC will always be the lead platform.

Regardless, here are a few interviews and hands-on reviews from PAX East you may want to check out. I've only highlighted ones where itemization on console gets addressed, but I figured this was kind of important, as it lets you get the information directly from the developers. :)

Penny Arcade Report
Kotaku
IGN (Skip to 5:25)
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Lylirra
So Its "OFFICIAL" The ps3/ps4 gets the better version(46)June-11-2013 3:59 PM PDT (8 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Thank you for linking that blog. I wanted to confirm how long ago it was, and three months is a long time to stand around and do nothing, from a player's perspective. Ask the Devs isn't even done, and the blog came before it, three months ago. Three months


Correct. Sometimes, changes to games can be made quickly. But that's not always the case, especially when you're looking at a system (like itemization) that's very core to the game itself. We can definitely understand that players would like said changes made overnight -- heck, we would too -- but we'd much rather take our time and come up with something that's actually meaningful and relevant, rather than implement something quickly that doesn't satisfy the current problems and/or make the game anymore engaging.
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Lylirra
So Its "OFFICIAL" The ps3/ps4 gets the better version(49)June-11-2013 4:09 PM PDT (8 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: Troqu

Everything we get is super rushed feeling instead of complete and considering the amount of time you guys spend being mum about things, we are being reasonable to doubt you guys care.


We know that some players feel that way about previous changes we've made (i.e. legendary improvements), and it's not unreasonable. Even if that's not actually the case, that's part of the reason why we're taking things a little more slowly this time around and really looking at more big/sweeping changes to the core of the item game.
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Lylirra
So Its "OFFICIAL" The ps3/ps4 gets the better version(57)June-11-2013 6:20 PM PDT (8 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
That's disrespectful towards the community, even though I know you guys regret that the itemization blog came out so soon (e.g. Travis Day said that in his interview with Archon on Twitch). Once it's done, just stand up to it, don't hide your heads behind your hands, like they could cover you.

So, Lylirra, this comes from a respectful player who loves D3 : why did you guys stop communicating about itemization for so long ? You come out as very unprofessional, especially after you yourself said you guys were going to make efforts to communicate with the community


That's fair. At the moment, we just don't have a lot of details to share about itemization (beyond what we've already communicated). Our goal is always to share new information once it's available, but the tricky part is what to communicate in between those points. Do we just reiterate what we've already said? Do we talk high-level only? Or do we just remain mum until that new information is out? Players are definitely divided on what they want.

Going to back to Travis's blog, itemization was a very popular topic and we wanted to acknowledge the concerns that players had officially, even if we didn't have a lot of details to share about how we were going to approach specific pain points. That was also feedback we'd heard a lot of: "We don't care if you don't have any details to share. Just respond to us." And so that particular developer journal blog was born, as well as the following Ask the Devs topic.

The upside to posting Travis's blog when we did is that is tackled some of the major discussions players were having while they were new and relevant. It was also a direct response to the feedback we'd been given. The downside is that the blog came out just as we were starting to approach our itemization revamp, so there's not been a lot of new information to share between then and now. We're still working on the same ideas and theories, but nothing's really reached a point where we can communicate that a) these are the things have been locked down and b) here are all the details of how those systems will work. Also, the communication we've provided on those "in-between" stages has been met with a lot of criticism (see the responses to the all itemization-related "Ask the Devs" answers) so far. Some people even said: "I don't know why you're even bothering to answer this if you don't have any details to share" -- which was the exact opposite feedback we'd heard just a few weeks prior.

We'd love to do more informal chats like what Travis and Wyatt did with Archon on the May 15, where the developers just take some time to casually talk about the game and their approach to certain issues. We might not have a lot of new information to share in those chats, but at least it would establish a nice of cadence of conversation. Less formal, more frequent.

But I don't know -- is that something that you guys would appreciate? We're always willing to experiment and find out what method works best to getting you information about the game. (Granted, it may not always be new information since Diablo III doesn't iterate as frequently as games like World of Warcraft or ones that are still in beta, but I think just having some transparency and candid communication with the developers would be nice.)
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Lylirra
So Its "OFFICIAL" The ps3/ps4 gets the better version(58)June-11-2013 6:22 PM PDT (8 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: Variable

Over a decade and counting ain't enough?


Not sure what you're actually looking for here with your comment? We admit the item game we created in Diablo III has flaws, we've openly admitted those flaws to our players and that we want to improve them. The next big step is to identify the right way to fix those flaws and, in the process, really re-capture that lust for loot and feeling of "HOLY CRAP ORANGE" that many players feel is missing right now.
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So Its "OFFICIAL" The ps3/ps4 gets the better version(163)June-14-2013 11:41 AM PDT (8 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: Banker

Yes almost 100% console version will have 1.0.9


Going to nip this one in the bud. The console version of Diablo III will ship with all of 1.0.7 content, plus some features from 1.0.8 -- but that's it. Detailed that a little more here: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9245624848#4
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