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Whirlwind Build Damage - A Detailed Analysis(1)Category: BarbarianApril-20-2015 8:03 PM PDT (9 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Alright folks, here is a comprehensive DPS analysis of the various end-game viable WW builds. The purpose is to settle the question once and for all - which build has the highest single target damage (STD)?

In this thread I will post the spreadsheets and final results. The current builds I have analyzed:

WotW6 / IK4 (physical w/ Unity)
WotW6 / IK4 (physical w/ CoE)
WotW6 / BK2 (physical low CDR w/ Unity+CoE)
WotW6 / BK2 (lightning high CDR w/ Unity+CoE)
WotW6 / BK2 (lightning w/ F&R)
WotW6 / BK2 (lightning w/ CoE+ORotZ) Season 3
IK6 Pets Build (fire w/ F&R)

There are a huge number of potential candidates. If you want one mathed out that isn't listed here yet, just post what you'd like to see.

There are also other builds that I am in the process of analyzing in the same master spreadsheet:

IK6 / BK2 (lightning w/ F&R)
Tal Rasha Mammoth Hydra

These calculations assume perfect ancient gear and favoring DPS stats over toughness. For instance, rolling IAS on gloves instead of Vit, WW on helm instead of Vit, etc.,

All gems are assumed to be at level 50 and paragon level is 800. All DPS numbers assume Rampage is not active. Against a target w/ spawns (such as Hamelin), you can multiply the final DPS values by ~1.25 because you should be able to maintain Rampage.

NOTE: no AoE damage procs (Bloodshed, Slaughter, AD, etc.,) are included in the calculations. Damage against Rift Guardians who spawn adds will be higher than shown here as a result.

Results
This is a multi-week project, I will bump the thread as I add more results.

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WotW6 / IK4 (Physical w/ Unity)
http://www.d3planner.com/378836822
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This is currently one of the most common builds. Don't let the average DPS mislead you - because this build uses Pain Enhancer, it has the ability to snapshot much higher DPS. If you're looking to fish snapshots, you should drop Rend for another skill that doesn't have an interruptive casting animation (such as Overpower->Crushing Advance/Killing Spree).

Gear: WotW Helm, WotW Shoulders, WotW Gloves, WotW Chest, WotW Boots, IK Pants, IK Belt, IK BB, Lacunis, RoRG, Unity

Skills: WW (Blood Funnel), Rend (Blood Lust), CotA (Ancient's Fury), WotB (Insanity), Battle Rage (Bloodshed/Swords to Ploughshares), Warcry (Impunity)

Passives: Ruthless, Rampage, Berserker Rage, Nerves of Steel

Gems: Trapped, Pain Enhancer, Taeguk

Final stats w/ all buffs, passives (except Rampage) and 3% IAS from PE active: 10382 Strength, 59% IAS, 61% CHC, 480% CHD, 40% Physical, 15% Elite, 30% WW, 30% Rend

Total STDPS: 1,347,674,640.25 normal / 1,549,825,836.29 elite

% of damage from Dust Devils: 67.08%
% of damage from CotA: 13.14%
% of damage from Rend: 9.44%
% of damage from Pain Enhancer: 5.47%
% of damage from Whirlwind: 4.87%

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WotW6 / IK4 (Physical w/ CoE)
http://www.d3planner.com/435141793
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This is a variant of the standard physical build, suggested by Det0x. This build requires more precise play and a rift guardian who spawns adds in order to function properly.

Gear: WotW Helm, WotW Shoulders, WotW Gloves, WotW Chest, WotW Boots, IK Pants, IK Belt, IK BB, Reaper Wraps, RoRG, Convention of Elements

Skills: WW (Blood Funnel), Rend (Blood Lust), CotA (Together as One), WotB (Insanity), Battle Rage (Swords to Ploughshares), Warcry (Impunity)

Passives: Superstition, Rampage, Ruthless, Nerves of Steel

Gems: Trapped, Pain Enhancer, Taeguk

Final stats w/ all buffs, passives (except Rampage) and 3% IAS from PE active: 10782 Strength, 52% IAS, 61% CHC, 480% CHD, 40% Physical, 30% WW, 30% Rend, 150 Max Fury

Total STDPS: 1,785,592,819.97

% of damage from Dust Devils: 70.29%
% of damage from Rend: 9.90%
% of damage from CotA: 9.58%
% of damage from Pain Enhancer: 5.59%
% of damage from Whirlwind: 4.63%

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WotW6 / BK2 (Low CDR Physical w/ Unity+CoE)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/17345877046
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This variant is currently being championed by KingBenjamin. Survival comes via Unity, W4, GS/Warcry, Threatening Shout and high vitality. It requires the player to correctly snapshot WotB and PE IAS simultaneously in order to achieve the listed DPS. Notable bleeding target thresholds for higher DPS: 5, 12 and 20 bleeds.

Gear: WotW Helm, WotW Shoulders, WotW Gloves, WotW Chest, WotW Pants, WotW Boots, Witching Hour, Lacunis, BK Solemn Vow, BK Warrior Blood, Unity, Convention of Elements

Skills: WW (Blood Funnel), OP (Killing Spree), GS/Warcry, WotB (Insanity), Battlerage (BS), Threatening Shout (Demoralize)

Passives: Relentless, Berserker Rage, Weapons Master, Nerves of Steel

Gems: Trapped, Taeguk, Pain Enhancer

Final stats w/ all buffs, passives and 3% IAS from PE active: 10917 Strength, 67% IAS, 75% CHC, 660% CHD, 21.25% CDR, 40% Physical, 30% WW

WotB Uptime: 21.16%
OP Cast Rate: once every ~7.26s

Total STDPS: 1,397,526,009.50 normal / 1,607,154,910.93 elite

% of damage from Dust Devils: 90.58%
% of damage from Pain Enhancer: 4.62%
% of damage from Whirlwind: 4.40%
% of damage from Overpower: ~0.40%

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WotW6 / BK2 (High CDR Lightning w/ Unity+CoE)
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This build is the little brother of the seasonal ORotZ variant.

Gear: WotW Helm, WotW Shoulders, WotW Gloves, WotW Chest, WotW Pants, WotW Boots, PoC, Lacunis, BK Solemn Vow, BK Warrior Blood, Unity, Convention of Elements

Skills: WW (Windshear), OP (Killing Spree), Groundstomp, WotB (Insanity), Battlerage (BS/StP), IP (Iron Hide)

Passives: Ruthless, Rampage, Boon of BK, Nerves of Steel

Gems: Trapped, Taeguk, Gogok

Final stats w/ all buffs and passives (except Rampage) active: 10267 Strength, 72% IAS, 75% CHC, 610% CHD, 57.78% CDR, 40% Lightning, 30% WW

WotB Uptime: 52.63%
IP Uptime: 102.64%
OP Cast Rate: once every ~2.817s

Total STDPS: 1,336,878,686.27 normal / 1,537,410,489.21 elite

% of damage from Dust Devils: 93.97%
% of damage from Whirlwind: 5.33%
% of damage from Overpower: 0.70%

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WotW6 / BK2 (High CDR Lightning w/ CoE+ORotZ)
http://www.d3planner.com/993253256
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This build achieves 100% uptime on WotB, CotA and IP via high CDR and the seasonal Obsidian Ring of the Zodiac. It has more DPS and toughness than any other WW variant I have calculated. I predict ORotZ to be the basis of any winning build for Era/Season 3. If you need more healing you can drop Ruthless for Weapons Master and switch to physical. Also valid is rolling 10% damage off one or both weapons for more vitality/healing. There is DPS to spare.

Gear: WotW Helm, WotW Shoulders, WotW Gloves, WotW Chest, WotW Pants, WotW Boots, PoC, Lacunis, BK Solemn Vow, BK Warrior Blood, Convention of Elements, Obsidian Ring of the Zodiac

Skills: WW (Windshear), OP (Killing Spree), CotA (TaO), WotB (Insanity), Battlerage (StP), IP (Ignorance is Bliss)

Passives: Ruthless, Rampage, Boon of BK, Berserker Rage

Gems: Trapped, Taeguk, Gogok

Final stats w/ all buffs and passives (except Rampage) active: 10917 Strength, 79% IAS, 75% CHC, 560% CHD, 57.78% CDR, 40% Lightning, 30% WW

Total STDPS: 2,481,398,047.35

% of damage from Dust Devils: 79.81%
% of damage from CotA: 15.52%
% of damage from Whirlwind: 4.07%
% of damage from Overpower: 0.60%

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WotW6 / BK2 (High CDR Lightning w/ F&R)
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This build uses Furious Charge + APD's to achieve survivability. Although I have lightning listed as the element, in practice you can switch to physical for more healing and achieve similar results.

Gear: WotW Helm, WotW Shoulders, WotW Gloves, WotW Chest, WotW Pants, WotW Boots, PoC, APDs, BK Solemn Vow, BK Warrior Blood, Focus, Restraint

Skills: WW (Windshear), FC (Cold Rush), Warcry (Impunity), WotB (Insanity), Battlerage (BS/StP), IP (Iron Hide)

Passives: Ruthless, Rampage, Boon of BK, Nerves of Steel

Gems: Trapped, Taeguk, Gogok

Final stats w/ all buffs and passives (except Rampage) active: 10267 Strength, 65% IAS, 67% CHC, 610% CHD, 57.78% CDR, 40% Lightning, 30% WW

WotB Uptime: 52.63%
IP Uptime: 102.64%
FC Cast Rate: once every ~4.22s

Total STDPS: 1,612,017,807.81

% of damage from Dust Devils: 94.69%
% of damage from Whirlwind: 4.67%
% of damage from Furious Charge: 0.64%

Conclusions
W6IK4 (Physical w/ Unity) STDPS:
1,347,674,640.25 normal / 1,549,825,836.29 elite

W6IK4 (Physical w/ CoE) STDPS:
1,785,592,819.97

W6BK2 (Physical low CDR w/ Unity+CoE) STDPS:
1,397,526,009.50 normal / 1,607,154,910.93 elite

W6BK2 (Lightning w/ Unity+CoE) STDPS:
1,336,878,686.27 normal / 1,537,410,489.21 elite

W6BK2 (Lightning w/ CoE+ORotZ) STDPS:
2,481,398,047.35

W6BK2 (Lightning w/ F&R) STDPS:
1,612,017,807.81

For most variants, 30% WW damage on gear is worth at least 12% STD because it buffs both Whirlwind and Dust Devil damage.

CotA damage is generally not worth stacking on gear in lieu of toughness / CDR. Best case, 30% CotA on gear is < 5% STD increase.

Rend damage is not worth stacking on gear in lieu of toughness / CDR stats. 30% Rend on gear equals < 2% STD increase.

Credits / Shoutouts
Various, but mostly Nubtro, page and PaulNg.

References
Nubtro confirming the current breakpoint equations:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/16858105832#14

Nubtro confirming DDs hit enemies only once and alternates hands for damage:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/17070226952#8

Nubtro test of WW and DD proc coefficients:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/16718251682?page=13#245

Nubtro confirming Dust Devils take on the element of the chosen Whirlwind rune:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/17085508524#8

Leland confirming the same thing:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/16952496104

PaulNg's PE and Pet damage equations:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13349475072

Nubtro test of Zodiac proc rate and my Zodiac calculation:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/17261347119?page=4#66

Nubtro on Weapons Master vs. Windshear fury generation:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/17607391442#4

Spreadsheet Link
It's still crude (especially the toughness stuff - which is completely unfinished):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RMvtdrUMqzmVUjNoUAtYruGwaBxtUu1_IqKHRmOnCBo/edit?usp=sharing


Final Words
I plan on including final toughness values in my results, because this is important too. Thanks for reading!
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Grimiku
Whirlwind Build Damage - A Detailed Analysis(467)June-2-2015 2:18 PM PDT (9 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Hey, Shadow

I increased the posting limit for your thread, and sorry that it took me so long to get around to it. Great post, and keep up the good work!
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