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nekkra #1565
Truth on Misinformation(1)Category: GeneralJune-4-2014 1:26 PM PDT (9 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
I have seen several posts now where players have challenged the validity of the RNG in the game. Me personally, I feel it is working correctly for me. However, I am not naïve or shortsighted enough to say that my gaming experience is what others are experiencing. These posts where others are trying to provide information and see what others are experiencing are being locked by blues and saying that the posters are deliberately posting misinformation. The arguments by the devs are that nobody is sitting at the servers deliberately flipping a leg off and on switch.

Personally I find that this is offensive and insulting to the players and the customer. They are trying to deliberately discredit people who challenge the validity of anything they we are told. Nobody is saying that devs are purposefully turning drops on/off. What they are saying though is that their experience seems not in line and that there is a possibility for some faulty programming.

Are you really going to come on here and say that there is not and has never been any bugs/faulty programming in the game? Especially when you have knee jerk reactions to people having fun and you nerf something by saying it was a bug? Your favorite excuse!

Do you really think we forgot all about things like 2Beez? or auctions being manipulated because you used the clients times which could be adjusted?

Do you think we forgot all about how people were complaining about being hacked and snide remarks and responses were given to them.

Only to find out that yes your system was indeed compromised?

Would you be willing to call me a lier to my face when I say that I witnessed in the past my gold pickup amount actually dropping down to a specific default number, on numerous occasions. This of course after I had already obtained an achievement that showed I have collected more. These were number fluctuations that I could actually observe.

Who is the one that is proven as giving out misinformation?

Remember pvp?

Do you remember Blizzcon 2012?
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Truth on Misinformation(119)June-4-2014 4:46 PM PDT (9 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: nekkra

They are trying to deliberately discredit people who challenge the validity of anything they we are told.


This is a rather bold assumption. We are attempting to avoid a situation where a rumor rampages out of control and becomes community "truth." In this case, we have investigated multiple times into drop rates to make sure they are working as they should. We have tested and retested. The results have come back consistently in each instance - drop rates are where they are supposed to be, and haven't been changed since the implementation of the Community Buff for the 2nd Anniversary. Each time we post regarding misinformation being spread, we are as certain as we can be that this is the case.

Posted by: nekkra

Are you really going to come on here and say that there is not and has never been any bugs/faulty programming in the game?


Not at all! But we do check and recheck things when community concerns are brought up or reports come in consistently. That's not the case here - rather, the occasional string of bad luck comes up and these types of posts come in waves. The reports we've received on drop rates are inconsistent, and our testing results and internal drop rate numbers contradict the suggested pattern.

RNG, being inherently random in nature and definition, is something that's easy to mistake as working inconsistently. That's the nature of the beast. What I can do is reassure you that we've done everything we can (and more) on our end to make sure it's working the way it should.

Posted by: nekkra

Especially when you have knee jerk reactions to people having fun and you nerf something by saying it was a bug?


That's a pretty unfair statement. Any change made is in the interest of the game's health in the long term, whether it's a bug fix or a balance change. We carefully weigh the benefits and detriments to such changes, and while some do result in a reduction of power, it's a byproduct of fixing something that is working against its original intent.

Everyone loves to smash face and feel powerful - but without a little control, we can inadvertantly severely restrict growth of power in the future. We want to provide additional content down the road, and if a single skill or item upsets the balance of everything else available, it substantially changes the way we develop that content. Instead of balancing everything in the future around a single outlier, it's more appropriate to bring that outlier back into balance with other aspects of the game.

You're welcome to provide constructive feedback regarding changes, or raise your concerns regarding whether or not something is working as it should. That isn't something we're trying to take away. However, in this case, we've done our leg work, and I've shared that information.

That said, this is a pretty unproductive conversation with little productive discourse, so I'll be locking this thread. If you'd like to send us your feedback regarding moderation practices, you're welcome to do so directly to lylirra@blizzard.com - she's our manager, and will be happy to review your concerns.
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