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JackieTran #1693
Blizzard, please remove sheet damage and even toughness(1)Category: GeneralApril-17-2014 8:00 AM PDT (9 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Reading through the topic "350k dps WD got kicked out of party", I see a lot of people are still in "D3 vanilla" state. Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. Sheet damage doesn't mean jack-!@#$ anymore. There are a lot of offensive stats which aren't factored into sheet damage: pet damage, elemental damage, elite damage, skill damage, CDR, resource cost reduction, area damage, etc. I know this has been a known issue, but seeing people still giving WD "700k dps should be minimum for T3" or similar things, I just lol.

Toughness is somewhat a less broken measurement but it needs fix as well.

TL;DR: Either remake sheet damage or remove it. What's the point of a measurement if it gives you wrong information?
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Nevalistis
Blizzard, please remove sheet damage and even toughness(32)April-17-2014 10:20 AM PDT (9 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: JackieTran

TL;DR: Either remake sheet damage or remove it. What's the point of a measurement if it gives you wrong information?


The DPS, Toughness, and Healing stats are all meant to be general, quick evaluations of your character's power. While you will have a better grasp of exactly what your character is capable of by more closely analyzing your individual stats, these overviews are there to provide this information at a short glance. Similar to the green or red Damage/Toughness/Healing estimations that show up when evaluating a new piece of gear, scrutinizing the details will give you the information needed to make those more precise gearing decisions.

For players that wish to focus a little less on min-maxing, though, those stats are there to provide a sort of surface check. We're certainly open to feedback on how we can improve on these stats, and as indicated in our Patch Notes, we are keeping an eye on the stats that weigh into this to make sure they're properly indicative of the amount of benefit they provide.

Bear in mind that some stats are much more tricky to incorporate into this kind of system, with bonus damage versus Elites and bonus Skill damage being good examples. Stats with an orange diamond adjacent to them are not calculated into DPS, Toughness, or Healing, and should be independently considered from these overviews as a result.
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Nevalistis
Blizzard, please remove sheet damage and even toughness(65)April-17-2014 10:44 AM PDT (9 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: Bailrs

what i don't get is the discrepancy of the numbers, my toughness is way lower on the profile than in the game.


That's a bit different. Our Web Team is hard at work troubleshooting bugs where these inconsistencies pop up from time to time. If you notice something in particular, I know they'd really appreciate such reports over in our Website Bug Report forum. :)
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