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The chests aren't nerfed!(1)Category: GeneralApril-3-2014 6:31 PM PDT (10 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Seriously,

All the hotfix says is that there are less chests in a few zones. What am I missing? It didn't say they drop less...
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Lylirra
The chests aren't nerfed!(5)April-3-2014 6:46 PM PDT (10 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Info about Demonic Vessels here: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12412661154?page=3#50

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For clarity, the hotfix only affects the frequency with which chests will spawn in very specific areas (called out in our ongoing 2.0.3 Hotfixes thread here: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12032813274). The hotfix does not affect the loot inside those chests, or other chests, in any way. This was a very conscious decision on our part.

The number of chests that spawn in the following zones has been reduced:
  • Core of Arreat
  • Briarthorn Cemetary
  • Battlefields of Eternity
  • Crag of Eternity


  • For even more clarity (since this may come up), we still have a buff planned for Resplendent Chests that will improve their treasure class. That buff, which is in truth a bug fix, is planned for our next small patch. Nevalistis provides a bit more detail here: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12372087386?page=3#53
    [Post edited one time, last edit by Lylirra at April-3-2014 7:18 PM PDT (10 years ago)]
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    Lylirra
    The chests aren't nerfed!(50)April-3-2014 7:16 PM PDT (10 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
    Posted by: Vresiberba

    Don't tell me, you don't consider Demonic Vessels as chests, do you.


    Yup, you actually nailed it. Demonic Vessels are (from an actual design perspective) considered on par with vases and not actually chests.

    Given responses to my previous post, I actually went over to talk with our system design team to see what was up. There was a separate hotfix made, which I've now added to the main hotfix thread, to Demonic Vessels to correct their loot tables. They were previously pulling from chest loot tables rather than from vase loot tables. That hotfix is live, which could account for your personal experiences. (Apologies for the confusion there!)

    That said, chests (objects with a lid that flip up) have not had their loot adjusted in any way with these recent fixes. The only changes made to chests are those noted here:

    The number of chests that spawn in the following zones has been reduced:*
    • Core of Arreat
    • Briarthorn Cemetary
    • Battlefields of Eternity
    • Crag of Eternity
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    Lylirra
    The chests aren't nerfed!(68)April-3-2014 7:24 PM PDT (10 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
    Posted by: Massacre

    heres my question for you Lylirra. You can Hot fix BAM nerf out the gate faster then superman could catch a bullet but it will require a whole patch to increase the drop rate of Resplendent chest? Please explain.


    It's due to the actual change (i.e. the kind of change) we need to make to Resplendent Chests, not the fact that we want to improve them. As Nevalistis noted:

    Posted by: Nevalistis

    There was a bug associated with Resplendent Chests that was causing them to drop the incorrect loot for their type. This was basically a holdover from prior to 2.0.1 where stacks of Nephalem Valor affected the loot that would drop from these chests, and unfortunately it was missed in the original 2.0.1 patch. Because it involves code that's a little deeper than the surface, it's not something we're able to hotfix and will require a patch to address.


    For reference, hotfixes are changes we make to data that's stored server-side (on our end) and patches are required in order to make changes to data that's stored client-side (on your end). In order to properly address the issues with Resplendent Chests, we're going to need to make some changes that affect client-side data, so a patch is needed.

    I know it's not ideal (if this was something we could hotfix, we absolutely would), but we're already working on a small bug fix/balance patch that we hope to have out very soon here.
    [Post edited one time, last edit by Lylirra at April-3-2014 8:20 PM PDT (10 years ago)]
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    The chests aren't nerfed!(94)April-3-2014 7:47 PM PDT (10 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
    Posted by: Hetchman

    Ok then, if Demonic Vessels are on par with vases, can you please make them break on their own without having to be clicked on? Area damage will bust most breakables, but you have to actively click on the vessels. I think that's why many of us (myself included) thought they were chests.


    Totally fair feedback (in that, "opening" vessels and vases is mechanically different, so it can feel weird to have vessels sometimes be empty, even though it feels normal for vases to sometimes be empty). Already passed it along. :)
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