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chrisko #1605
guaranteed legendary?(1)Category: GeneralFebruary-27-2014 7:50 AM PST (6 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
i just need some clarification. I remember reading a while ago that they were going to make it that the first time you killed a boss you would get a legendary. now ive heard people saying this is only true if youres <59. now i reset my quests, killed all of the act 1 bosses, sk, spider, and butcher. i got a legendary from sk and butcher, but not spider. I killed magdha in act 2 and i didnt get one, but i died. someone in chat said if you die you dont get your legendary.

it seems a little weird, can anyone clarify whats going on?

for the people who reset your quest, did you get legendarys from all the bosses you didnt die on?
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Grimiku
guaranteed legendary?(21)February-28-2014 10:17 AM PST (6 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
As of patch 2.0.1 the first time you kill a major boss (Butcher, Belial, Azmodan, and Diablo) you're guaranteed to find a Legendary item, but only for characters below level 60. Characters who killed these bosses prior to patch 2.0.1 will still get their guaranteed Legendary the first time they kill one after the patch, but only if they are level 59 or below.

Also, some of you may notice an option in the Game Settings tab called Reset Quests (just under the Change option for selecting your Campaign quest). I should point out that you do not need to use the Reset Quest option in order to be eligible for the guaranteed Legendary for a first time boss kill.
[Post edited one time, last edit by Grimiku at February-28-2014 10:36 AM PST (6 years ago)]
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Lylirra
guaranteed legendary?(31)February-28-2014 11:16 AM PST (6 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: SKillfuller

I am lvl60 and everytime i reset ,Skeleon King gives a legend, that's a bug right?


This is indeed a bug.
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guaranteed legendary?(41)February-28-2014 4:00 PM PST (6 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: Daph

I don't see the point of the reset quest button at 60 without something similar to a guaranteed legendary off SK. Even with the guaranteed legendary off SK it doesn't seem worth it. Should probably leave it in or get rid of reset quest.


Given that it's an option for players who want to take advantage of it (and not mandatory in any way for other players), we don't have any plans to remove it at this time.

I clarified some additional points about the Reset Quest button here, if you're curious: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/11913971402#12

Oh, hell. I'll just quote them too. For efficiency (and great justice).

Posted by: Lylirra

In order to unlock the "Reset Quest" button, your character will need to have completed every single quest in the game, including all the individual checkpoints (or steps) within those quests. Just because you've killed Diablo, that doesn't mean your character has necessarily completed every single quest in the game.

We know it's very confusing right now to tell which quest or quest step you're missing, so we're looking into ways to address that and make it more obvious for players to see exactly what they still need to complete in order to unlock the "Reset Quest" option on each of their characters.

That kind of change isn't something we can hotfix in, but instead would require a client-side patch. It is absolutely on our radar, though, and something we want to fix.


Posted by: Lylirra

When we decided to remove the old tiered progression system (Normal → Nightmare → Hell → Inferno), we knew we would be taking away the repeat story experience. We also knew that there are players out there who enjoyed that experience of getting to play through the story linearly as well as repetitively.

This is where the "Reset Quest" option comes in. We wanted to give players a way to repeat the story and still feel like they were getting a bonus for doing so. For those who don't know, whenever you use "Reset Quest," not only does your quest progression reset, but the gold and EXP rewards also reset. This gives players the opportunity to earn those higher "first time quest complete" reward values again, but it's at the cost of needing to replay the whole story -- which, hey, some players really enjoy.

That said, we know that it's a little too easy right now for players to click the "Reset Quest" button and accidentally reset their story progression without actually a) meaning to and b) knowing entirely what they're getting into. So, we're going to add some additional functionality that will both better clarify what "Reset Quest" does and what rewards come with it, as well make it a little more difficult for those accidental resets to happen.
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guaranteed legendary?(55)February-28-2014 5:04 PM PST (6 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: hunts

I do believe that trading and AH were also options for players who wanted to take advantage of them, no? Or would trading be forced onto players via disabling drops if you haven't traded with someone else in the past 24 hours or something similar?


We'll certainly keep an eye on how players use the Reset Quest option. If it looks like a large majority of players feel the feature is mandatory based on the rewards it provides (or if it somehow starts to short circuit an intentional element of the game, like the auction house did), then we'll likely revisit its functionality and make some changes.

Until then, we like being able to provide players the opportunity to start the campaign from scratch and earn first-time quest bonuses. We already have plans to make the feature itself a bit easier to navigate and understand, but beyond that we're pretty happy with its current functionality and intent.

Thanks for the feedback, though! I'll be sure to pass it on.
[Post edited one time, last edit by Lylirra at February-28-2014 5:06 PM PST (6 years ago)]
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guaranteed legendary?(69)February-28-2014 7:13 PM PST (6 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: DoomBringer

Hey Lylirra, please do not consider fixing the Skeleton King "bug". It gives us a nice reason to re-play the campaign.


So, here's a few quick updates from the design team (almost verbatim).

  • We will be fixing the bug with the Skeleton King in an upcoming patch ("the bug" = he drops a guaranteed Legendary item each time you kill him after using the Reset Quest feature). This not an intended bonus of Reset Quest.

  • While we are fixing the bug with the Skeleton King, we've definitely heard player feedback that it's nice to receive a guaranteed Legendary item for killing a boss after using the Reset Quest feature. We as developers like it, too, but feel that the Skeleton King is the wrong place for it. So, we're going to add that guaranteed Legendary drop to Diablo. Again, this would be a bonus for using the Reset Quest feature and playing the campaign all the way through, and would be provided regardless of level.

  • We're also revisiting drops for all Act bosses after using Reset Quest. We agree that seeing all blues drop just feels bad. =/

We don't have the details all figured out yet, but that's the general idea.
[Post edited three times, last edit by Lylirra at March-4-2014 7:19 PM PST (6 years ago)]
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guaranteed legendary?(312)March-4-2014 2:16 PM PST (6 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: NuConcept

Unless this change REQUIRES that players complete ALL QUESTS prior to receiving their legendary, this is actually WORSE than the skeleton king.


This is more or less the base requirement for the Reset Quest feature. In order to to be eligible to use Reset Quest, your character needs to have completed every single quest and quest objective in the current campaign. Moreover, once you've used Reset Quest, you will not be able to use the feature again until your character has re-completed every single quest and quest objective in the campaign. This functionality of Reset Quest is not being changed in any way.

I'd definitely encourage reading my other posts in this thread. I clarify exactly how the Reset Quest feature works. :)

Here's some quick links for reference:

Posted by: Lylirra

In order to unlock the "Reset Quest" button, your character will need to have completed every single quest in the game, including all the individual checkpoints (or steps) within those quests. Just because you've killed Diablo, that doesn't mean your character has necessarily completed every single quest in the game.

We know it's very confusing right now to tell which quest or quest step you're missing, so we're looking into ways to address that and make it more obvious for players to see exactly what they still need to complete in order to unlock the "Reset Quest" option on each of their characters.

That kind of change isn't something we can hotfix in, but instead would require a client-side patch. It is absolutely on our radar, though, and something we want to fix.


Posted by: Lylirra

When we decided to remove the old tiered progression system (Normal → Nightmare → Hell → Inferno), we knew we would be taking away the repeat story experience. We also knew that there are players out there who enjoyed that experience of getting to play through the story linearly as well as repetitively.

This is where the "Reset Quest" option comes in. We wanted to give players a way to repeat the story and still feel like they were getting a bonus for doing so. For those who don't know, whenever you use "Reset Quest," not only does your quest progression reset, but the gold and EXP rewards also reset. This gives players the opportunity to earn those higher "first time quest complete" reward values again, but it's at the cost of needing to replay the whole story -- which, hey, some players really enjoy.

That said, we know that it's a little too easy right now for players to click the "Reset Quest" button and accidentally reset their story progression without actually a) meaning to and b) knowing entirely what they're getting into. So, we're going to add some additional functionality that will both better clarify what "Reset Quest" does and what rewards come with it, as well make it a little more difficult for those accidental resets to happen.


Posted by: Lylirra

We'll certainly keep an eye on how players use the Reset Quest option. If it looks like a large majority of players feel the feature is mandatory based on the rewards it provides (or if it somehow starts to short circuit an intentional element of the game, like the auction house did), then we'll likely revisit its functionality and make some changes.

Until then, we like being able to provide players the opportunity to start the campaign from scratch and earn first-time quest bonuses. We already have plans to make the feature itself a bit easier to navigate and understand, but beyond that we're pretty happy with its current functionality and intent.

Thanks for the feedback, though! I'll be sure to pass it on.


Posted by: Lylirra

So, here's a few quick updates from the design team (almost verbatim).

We will be fixing the bug with the Skeleton King in an upcoming patch ("the bug" = he drops a guaranteed Legendary item each time you kill him after using the Reset Quest feature). This not an intended bonus of Reset Quest.

While we are fixing the bug with the Skeleton King, we've definitely heard player feedback that it's nice to receive a guaranteed Legendary item for killing a boss after using the Reset Quest feature. We as developers like it, too, but feel that the Skeleton King is the wrong place for it. So, we're going to add that guaranteed Legendary drop to Diablo. Again, this would be a bonus for using the Reset Quest feature and playing the campaign all the way through.

We're also revisiting drops for all Act bosses after using Reset Quest. We agree that seeing all blues drop just feels bad. =/

We don't have the details all figured out yet, but that's the general idea.
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guaranteed legendary?(313)March-4-2014 2:17 PM PST (6 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: Jewstin

You are only guaranteed a legendary the first time you kill the Act Bosses, Butcher, Belial, Azmodan and Diablo. After you kill them the first time, you are no longer guaranteed a drop.


Correct!

Edit: This only applies to level 1-59 characters. As Grimiku noted, level 60 characters are currently not eligible for this bonus.
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Lylirra
guaranteed legendary?(317)March-4-2014 2:26 PM PST (6 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: Kageromero

Hey Lylirra thanks for all the hard work :) Just curious if the 100% Legendary has been moved to diablo with this patch or if it's still on skeleton king


That bug fix/change didn't make this patch unfortunately. It's currently scheduled for the next. :)
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Lylirra
guaranteed legendary?(331)March-4-2014 3:03 PM PST (6 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: Verthag

Will this change when RoS releases to be 1-69? Perhaps a silly question, but figured it might be worth asking!

If this has been answered before elsewhere, my apologies.


Don't know off-hand, but will be happy to ask. (This may fall under the "don't have all the details just yet" umbrella. I'll let you know!)
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guaranteed legendary?(338)March-4-2014 4:21 PM PST (6 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: Lorax

I haven't directly checked level 1 characters for legendaries off The Butcher, but I would guess it would have the same effect, no legendaries until level 11. Can I get some type of confirmation on this?

( I meant I'll double check it once I can get back into the game after I finish patching, but yeah...)


Verifying right now!
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