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Miguz #1908
Greater rift issue(1)Category: PTR FeedbackJuly-27-2014 6:49 PM PDT (10 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
So i started playing greater rifts today on the ptr and it was all fun untill i reached my cap, i capped at lvl 34, i couldnt manage to kill anything without dying horribly, i understand i need to clear it even after time is up in order to get the gem upgrader.

Am i the only one this system is completely bad? how can i upgrade my gems if in order to do so i need to fail a rift, and if i cant even manage to kill an elite pack in that rift how am i going to clear it?.

my suggestion is add a surrender option so when u reach a wall lvl in greater rift u can get ur gems upgraded.

something has to be done about it cuz im havent been able to upgrade my gems due to this.
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Nevalistis
Greater rift issue(6)July-29-2014 3:13 PM PDT (10 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
There has been a ton of great feedback coming our way about Greater Rifts and your experiences with them. So let me take a moment to just say thank you! It's been super helpful to us and confirmed a lot of suspicions our development team has had regarding their current reward structure. Plenty of changes are coming in the next PTR patch that reflect these concerns.

  • Urshi will no longer only spawn when a Greater Rift is failed; instead, she will spawn at the end of every Greater Rift level. You'll be able to choose whether you wish to upgrade your gem or, assuming that you completed that Rift within the time limit, move on to the next level.


  • The Rift Guardian will spawn at the 15 minute mark regardless of whether your bar has reached full progress. This should eliminate "the slog" at higher Greater Rifts where you fail, but have the rest of the level to go before you get your rewards.


  • The pacing for upgrading your Legendary Gems is being significantly revised.
    • Legendary gem upgrades are now more likely to receive multiple ranks per upgrade attempt at higher Greater Rift tiers, to a maximum of 4 ranks at a time.
    • This is in addition to the higher chance to upgrade gained at each additional Greater Rift tier.
    • To compensate for this change, individual ranks are less powerful. The rate of power accrual will roughly be the same, you'll just experience it more frequently!


These are some pretty significant changes to the Greater Rift reward scheme and they should vastly improve your experience when completing and conquering higher Greater Rift tiers. Be sure to let us know what you think once these changes are on our PTR!

*Edited for clarity*
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Greater rift issue(67)July-30-2014 3:35 PM PDT (10 years ago) Go to Blizzard forum post
Posted by: Tembus

Posted by: Babymaker

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so these gems are nerfed?


yeah what does this exactly mean?


Posted by: Agency

Will legendary gems' secondary ability be unlocked at level 50 still?


Good questions! The quick answer is no, the secondary ability no longer unlocks at level 50 - it now unlocks at 200. The reward scaling and rank power of Legendary gems has been completely revamped, and we're still working on additional tuning. You’ll see our first iteration in the next PTR patch. It roughly works out to the same amount of power gained over time, but you'll have fewer "no rank up" droughts. Hope that makes sense.

I'd also like to clarify something that I misunderstood when originally relaying this information. Legendary Gems no longer have a chance to rank up multiple times in one attempt. Instead, when you choose to use Urshi to upgrade your Legendary Gems, if you've completed a high enough Greater Rift, she will offer you additional attempts at upgrading your Legendary Gems with a higher success rate at higher Greater Rift tiers. You can gain up to a maximum of 4 upgrade attempts at a time.

This is a bit hard to illustrate, so here's an example (though bear in mind the numbers are completely pulled out of thin air and not accurate; they're just here for the sake of explanation):

Say you complete a level 15 Greater Rift and you decide you want to opt to upgrade your gem. You have a reasonable chance for your gem to upgrade, but you'll only be able to attempt it once. Instead, you decide to try to push a little further to Rank 20, where you know you'll get two attempts at a slightly better chance. You can then choose to spend these two attempts on two different gems, or use them both on one to try to get two ranks.

In short, while you could try to upgrade your gems with Level 1 Greater Rifts, the chance will be very low and you'll only have one attempt. Higher level Rifts offer not only more attempts, but a higher success rate for upgrades. While there will likely be an "efficient" place for you to upgrade your gems based on your current gear, there's still room to push yourself further for greater reward.

I also want to thank everyone who's continued to provide valuable and constructive feedback in response to these updates. I'm passing it all on, and it's greatly appreciated!
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